Win 748, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer. I have not yet really worked up a load. I did some shooting out to 600 yards with some 168 gr loads I already worked up and then went back to 800. TMK Match 165gr TGK Case/prim Hornady/ WLRM C.O.A.L 2.860 2.810 2.875 2.975 2.860 I am having trouble getting powders like Varget. FN 150 gr. SBT 200 gr. (38.5 to 40.5 gr.) The most consistent and, therefore, most desirable of the "old school" brass would be FA 63 Match, FA 64 Match, LC 64 Match, LC 64 NM, LC 66 Match, LC 66 NM, LC 72 Match or LC 77 Match. Win 748, Remington or Federal Brass, Fed 210 Primer175 gr. Hornady 168 BTHPs are 1.23" in length and Sierra 168 MKs are 1.215", less than 2% difference. 175 gr. HPBT MatchKing 168 gr. HP 125 gr. IMR-4064 gives great MV for 165/168 grain bullets, comparable to Varget, but how has the accuracy been? SMK, 40.0 gr. With Berger 168-grain VLDs, VV-N140 won by a nose with RL-15 and Varget right behind. HPBT 170 gr. I'm shooting a Savage 10 FCP bolt gun. Lays the brass at about 4 o'clock in a 2' circle. 99.9% of the time, you’ll find that one or more of these loads will create that “one-hole group” or at the very least sub MOA group that you’ve been looking for. Right now i am working a load up with the 168 amax bullet and imr 4064 as well. The 30 Caliber 168 Grain Classic Hunter bullet is where the magic of this round comes from. .308 match loads for use in AR-10 style rifles will be covered in an future article. This was just at a starting load of 4064 of 43.5 gr. 150 gr. .308 Match Loads Effective out to 200 and 300 MetersThe primary (accuracy) powder charge for each load is noted below. Last week I test shot a .75", 10 rd group @ 100yds with my Steyr Scout. The 43.5 gr. IMR 4895, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer168 gr. Any of the FA or LC Match brass is great for use in these loads. SBT 165 gr. RL 15, Lapua Match Brass, Fed 210 Primer. Fire those then see which one performed better. SBT 165 gr. FMJ 110 gr. Does anyone have a load they like with this partition and powder? H-4895, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer168 gr. Lower this charge by at least 1.0 full grain if you use surplus military brass (Lake City, IMI, etc. Disclaimer (got to make the lawyers happy): Since I have no control over variations in components, reloading tools or reloader’s procedures, the individual is solely responsible for any changes in ballistics that may occur using this data. It is equally effective in small-capacity varmint cartridges from 223 Remington to 22-250 Remington, and it’s a great 30-30 Winchester powder. 47.5 gr. You shouldnt have a problem subbin whatever 168 SMK load ya find for the 168 Amax. The proper burn rate powder for the .308 is a mid-range rifle powder, which gives the reloader a large selection of … IMR 4064 load looked great as well. roughly 19 inches at 800 yards (about 2.25 MOA). 147 - 155 grain FMJ or HPBT bullets IMR 3031 - 48.0 grains IMR 4895 - 49.0 grains IMR 4064 - 50.0 grains W748 - 48.0 grains AA2460 - 49.0 grains AA2520 - 51.0 grains AA2495 - 50.5 grains H4895 - 49.0 grains BLC-2 - 49.0 grains H335 - 49.0 grains RL-12 - 48.0 grains 165/168 grain FMJ, HP or SP bullets IMR 4895 - 47.0 grains IMR 4094 - 48.0 grains It looks like my range time will be limited before my class at sig next week. I worked up to 43.4 this week with no pressure signs and good accruacy. SMK, 43.4 gr. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - 2230: 130 gr. SMK, 40.5 gr. IMR 4895, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer190 gr. HPBT MatchKing 155 gr. Weigh each charge, IMR-4064 sucks when thrown from a measure. With pretty much the same results for 168 and 175 gr SMKs. SMK, 40.0 gr. RN 110 gr. Poking around online I came up with 45-48 grains of imr 4895 loaded to 3.300". Coincidentally, the last group I fired, comprising 43.5 grains of IMR 4064 behind 168-grain Sierra HPBT bullets loaded in Lapua brass, functioned perfectly and put four of five shots into one hole. With pretty much the same results for 168 and 175 gr SMKs. Thats the plan I just don't have any numbers w/ the AMax partitions. : I use 44 grains of IMR 4064 with a 150 grain bullet. I ran out to wholesale sports last night and took a quick look at the hornaday manual. 168 gr. 45 grs IMR 4064, Prvi case, Fed 210M Match primer, 155 gr Nosler Custom Comp bullet, COAL 2.880 This is VERY accurate. SMK, 39.0 gr. IMR/H 4895 is … Win 748, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer. * Having seen his fired cases, they exibit all the normal, but about maximum presure signs. SMK, 45.5 gr. My other problem is the primers-in the last 4-5 months I have only found CCI 200, CCI 250, and Win LR primers. HPBT 168 gr. (42.0 to 43.4 gr.) (39.5 to 41.5 gr.) This brass has the best internal case capacity and wall thickness consistency of any .308 brass ever fabricated. Exception would be the M1A service rifle...utilize small-base, full-length sizing dies. A medium burn speed propellant with many uses, IMR 3031 has long been a favorite of 308 Match shooters using 168-grain match bullets. Its going about 2600 FPS out of my 24 inch barrel. Easy on the rifle. Redding 3-BR Powder Measure … 112 IMR Powders IMR 4064 41.0 42.6 116 Alliant Powders RE 15 41.6 42.9 44.3 44.9 45.6 118 Hodgdon CFE 223 42.5 44.0 45.6 46 ... length& twist 24''/ 1-10'' desc. The 308 Winchester has been a favorite for generations and continues to be a staple cartridge for hunting game of all sizes. The primary (accuracy) powder charge for each load is noted below. I started at 40gr and worked to 44gr and even at 44gr had no pressure signs. Lot variance has frustrated Varget users, however. 44.5 gr. IMR 4064. Standard accuracy load with 168 grain match bullets in .308 is usually stated around 42.0 or 42.5 grains of IMR-4064. They are very coveted and amazing to work with! - Win 748 Meters the best so far, IMR 4895 next. It looks like my range time will be limited before my class at sig next week. I did manage to get some IMR 4064,4320, and I already had some H-335. should have some chrono info after this weekend. (38.5 to 40.5 gr.) Several sources have reported that IMR 4064 is what Federal uses in Gold Medal Match 308 ammo. They are the best deal available for true match grade ammo. That's ok, the starting load data I quoted was from the 2015 Hodgdon Annual Manual, I found my 2016 Annual Manual and it lists the same data. * Military teams have been using 44.0-gr. IMR 4064, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer180 gr. I do not assume any liability in conjunction with the use of any product or data. Lower this charge by at least 1.0 full grain if you use surplus military brass (Lake City, IMI, etc. About 2,570 fps with a Wolf LMP. (41.0 to 43.0 gr.) (40.5 to 42.0 gr.) Most reloading books list 44gr of varget as the max for 168 gr bullet. SMK, 42.5 gr. Here we go! Powder: IMR 4064 Primer: CCI BR2 Bullet: Sierra 168gr Tipped MatchKing (TMK) Dies: Lee Precision Brass was full length sized, checked for length (all were very close to the trim to length so i didn't trim them), chamfered in/out. You’re not sure where to start and, don’t wish to spend a small fortune on components (by the way, powder prices have increased again averaging $30.00 per pound retail plus tax) or, all your time on the shooting bench load testing. http://www.6mmbr.citymaker.com/f/Sierra308Win.pdf, Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. After firing nearly 1,000 rounds of … My current favorite load is 40.1 grains of surplus 4895 behind a 168 grain Nosler 168 CC. The distances referenced below come from the discipline of NRA High Power Rifle Silhouette. Re: .308, 168 gr match load recipe win brass trimmed to 2.000( yes i know its under trim lenght) cci 200 168 smk 42. to 43 of imr 4064 col set at 2.930( dont use the col in your gun till you know where the lands start) but 15 thousand off works for me with this load it likes to be close to the lands and will shoot 1/4 moa if the gun is capable The “classicâ€.308 load for 168gr SMKs is IMR 4064 with Federal primers. I suggest you buy a 1000 bullet box of Nosler .308" 168 grain Custom Competition bullets. SMK, 40.0 gr. HPBT Palma MatchKing 168 gr. should have some chrono info after this weekend. This first article covers a topic that I field a lot of questions about. This was my 5 shot group at 800 yards on an NRA long range target with the 175 gr SMK's and 41 gr. I treated the imr like varget as far as " safe max loads" goes since the burn rate is so close. Have fun and enjoy! SMK, 40.0 gr. Manuals I have that list service rifle data either list powders I dont have or different bullet weights. - Varget and IMR 4064 give me my best accuracy. SMK, 39.0 gr. Win 748, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer180 gr. (44.0 to 45.5 gr.) IMR 4895, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer168 gr. SMK, 40.0 gr. SPT 150 gr. However, these days Varget is probably slightly more popular. IMR 4064, Remington or Federal Brass, Fed 210 Primer175 gr. 175 gr. 180's were a close second. Well, the following .308 match loads have worked extremely well for me in competitions over the past 35+ years. The Barnes load data for .30-06 has a few powders that are listed for most or all the TSX & TTSX bullet weights I'm interested in trying:. IMR 4064 meters the worst. 165 gr. 175 grain SMK and IMR 4064 41.7 grain through 42.2 grain groups at 100 yards (above). Since now two rifles are the same why not build your own load that your rifle likes? Shooters will find IMR 8208 XBR yields max velocities and “tack driving” accuracy. I'm getting ready to reload cartridges for the first time, and am trying to decide what powder to start with. Win 748, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer … IMR 4064 group was the smallest at .318″ (.304 MOA) with a velocity of 2,712 feet/second and a SD of 9.7 feet/second. A good rule of thumb is Varget is as slow a powder as you want to use and even Varget is questionable. SMK, 42.0 gr. V-Max. The 44.5 gr. .308 Match Loads Effective out to 385 Meters168 gr. (41.0 to 43.0 gr.) Excellent choices for the future would be IMR-4350, IMR-4831, or RL-19. Suggested powder loads from Sierra manual: 125 gr IMR 4064 43.3 grs 150/55 gr IMR 4064 45.0 grs 165/68 gr IMR 4064 43.9 grs 175/80 gr IMR … The 42.6 grain load shot the best, .351 MOA. HPBT Match 168 gr. I just ran a load work up for imr 4064 amd the 168 amax. SMK, 43.4 gr. HPBT Match 168 gr. A medium burn speed propellant with many uses, IMR 3031 has long been a favorite of 308 Match shooters using 168-grain match bullets. SMK, 39.0 gr. SBT 150 gr. If you’re lucky enough to lay hands on either WCC 58 or WCC 60 match brass (the Holy Grail of .308 Winchester match brass), save them for the long distance loads referenced below. Come join the discussion about optics, modifications, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! A forum community dedicated to Sharpshooters and Sniper enthusiasts. 4064 is an excellent powder for 168 gr in 308. Berger’s 308 Winchester 168 Grain Classic Hunter is a modern twist on a classic hunting round. loads above will work like a champ at this distance as long as the wind isn't too bad. Looking to work up a new load for the M1 using a Hornady 168gr hpbt and IMR 4895. IMR 4064, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer 168 gr. 30-06 SPRINGFIELD TARGET LOADS. Weigh each charge, IMR-4064 sucks when thrown from a measure. (41.0 to 43.0 gr.) Truth be known 48.0 IMR-4064 +/- has been the long held NM accuracy loading for 168/173 bullets at 3.30 COAL for almost a eon, so your recommendation of 47.5 under a 168 isn't out of line not knowing your COAL. (38.0 to 40.0 gr.) I shoot Hornady 168gr BTHP match out of my rem 700 over 48gr's of IMR 4064. I use the Hornady 168s quite often and they are similar in size to Sierra 168 Matchkings. IMR 4895, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer175 gr. (39.5 to 41.5 gr.) 4064 is an excellent powder for 168 gr in 308. The 42.0 grain load shot very well, .421 MOA. As a medium burn speed propellant, XBR is ideally suited for cartridges like the 223 Remington/5.56mm, 308 Winchester/7.62mm NATO and the 6mm PPC. empty unprimed cases weigh close to 180 grains). loads above will work like a champ at this distance as long as the wind isn't too bad. 175 SMK and IMR 4064 43.5 grain through 44.1 grain groups at 100 yards (above). Redding 3-BR Powder Measure … The subject matter below is a bit dry and technical so, grab your favorite beverage, belly-up to your computer and hang with me! 168 gr. IMR 8208 XBR is an accurate-metering, super short-grained extruded rifle powder was designed expressly for match, varmint, and AR sniper cartridges. The all around best powders are IMR 4895, Hodgdon H4895 and Accurate 2495. IMR-4064 worked pretty well, but the definite overall best powder with 150s was Varget. IMR 4064, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer175 gr. This was just at a starting load of 4064 of 43.5 gr. Unless otherwise noted, the following loads assume that you’re utilizing Lake City Arsenal (LC) or Frankford Arsenal (FA) Military Match brass. FMJBT 165 gr. Groups well. Long Range .308 Match Loads – Effective past 500 MetersThese loads are on the stout side but, I’ve never had pressure problems while utilizing the Remington 700 Special Purpose or Heavy Varmint barrel rifle. (42.0 to 43.4 gr.) My last trip to the range, I averaged .86" group size. RN 180 gr. These loads assume the use of 1 in 10” or 1 in 11” rifling twist. My last trip to the range, I averaged .86" group size. Once you do be more exact on the smaller increments near the most accurate charge and try again until you hit the sweet spot. Results with the 168-grain bullets were more consistent overall, probably because of the quality of the Berger bullets. Win 748, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer.308 Match Loads Effective out to 385 Meters 168 gr. JavaScript is disabled. My favorite load for 30-06 hands down. The three most accurate loads included Hornady 165-grain SST Superformance, Nosler 165-grain Ballistic Tip and Black Hills 155-grain Hornady A-MAX. SMK, 43.0 gr. HPBT MatchKing.308 Diameter Bullets 110 gr. SMK, 40.0 gr. The primary (accuracy) powder charge for each load is noted below. About 8,000 at the gas port. I use the Hornady 168s quite often and they are similar in size to Sierra 168 Matchkings. SMK, 39.0 gr. SMK, 41.0 gr. IMR 3031, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer168 gr. H-4895, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer175 gr. There is a load with 4064 and 168gr Amax, up to 2500fps. It is equally effective in small-capacity varmint cartridges from 223 Remington to 22-250 Remington, and it’s a great 30-30 Winchester powder. If you decide to switch from military match brass to civilian brass, I’d recommend utilizing Winchester, Remington, Federal, Norma, Hornady Match, RWS Match or Lapua Match. SMK, 43.0 gr. FA-Frankford ArsenalFed-FederalGM-Federal Gold Medal Match PrimerGr.-GrainsH-Hodgdon Powder CompanyIMR-Improved Military Rifle Powder (formerly Dupont, now owned by Hodgdon)LC-Lake City ArsenalNM-National MatchOAL-Over All Cartridge LengthRL-Reloder Powder (Alliant Powder Company)SMK-Sierra Match King BulletWCC-Western Cartridge CompanyWin-Winchester. I group at around a half inch at 100 yard's off of my lead sled easily. As indicated, there is a huge selection of top-notch extruded and spherical powders that have been designed primarily for the .308/7.62 NATO cartridges. spitzers. Right now i am working a load up with the 168 amax bullet and imr 4064 as well. Hornady 168 BTHPs are 1.23" in length and Sierra 168 MKs are 1.215", less than 2% difference. I found that my savae 10 likes the factory hornaday load the best and i am trying to mirror it as close as possible while hoping to improve on the .75-.5 moa the factory load shoots from my rifle. loads will help you stay on target with a minimum of windage adjust required. I'm shooting a Savage 10 FCP bolt gun. Also, as the title states, this is "old school." ... My Load is GI brass, cci military primer, 42 gr IMR 4064,and 175 SMK. SBT 220 gr. I'll start loading this afternoon. Safety, accuracy, and consistency are your primary concerns. When utilizing civilian brass with loads that were developed in military match brass, you can increase the powder charge by ~1.0 grain to closely match pressures and ballistics achieved in the military match brass. You can substitute the Federal 210 GM or Win 81/2-120 (currently designated WLR - Winchester Large Rifle) primer for the Federal 210 primer. SMK, 41.0 gr. Several sources have reported that IMR 4064 is what Federal uses in Gold Medal Match 308 ammo. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. When I say "a lot," I'm not kidding you at all (average runs 15 to 20 request for help/information per week). For the 160-175 grain boattails used by the majority of.308 shooters, you want a powder of medium burn rate that gives close to 100% load density. 4064 is an excellent powder for the '06, though maybe a tad too fast for the 180 gr. NOTE: While the below listed loading tables clearly show a wide range of powders for M1A / M14 load date due to the operation and speed of the rifle action some powders work much better than others. Federal Gold Medal cases and Fed Gold Medal primers.